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Re: NQ 2003 bat hop phap vi luat

Wednesday, 11 November, 2009 7:14 AM
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Quy anh, chi

Toi dang o xa nha, nen chua the tra loi het cac van de lien quan den Noi Quy 2003
Tuy nhien cung van tat vai diem sau day de tranh su huong dan sai lac ( misleading) cua su+. ca'o buoc NQ 2003 la bat hop phap, vi luat.

1)Diem thu nhat, chieu theo tinh than luat phap hien nay thi " The justice or injustice of a cause is to be decided by the judge" , vi the nen than trong khi chua hieu ro tai sao co’ NQ 2003. Tot hon het la nen dat cau hoi tai sao co NQ 2003 va se duoc giai thich thoa dang hon la mat nham mat mo cao buoc NQ 2003 la vi luat da HDQT chap nhan.

Van de khong phai hop phap hay bat hop hay vi luat, ma van de la giua hai Noi quy 1981 va Noi quy 2003, Noi quy nao thich hop cho sinh hoat cua TH. Chung toi se tro lai van de nay ro rang hon.

2) Giua Noi Quy va To Chuc, thi To chuc co truoc, Noi quy co sau. Vi vay to chuc quan trong hon Noi quy. Vi to chuc quan trong nen phai ton trong tinh bang huu la can ban cua su ket hop. Noi quy chi la phan phu. ( Organization can exist without bylaws, but bylaws cannot exist without organization) khong nen dat nguoc van de se phuong hai den tinh than doan ket.

3) Hien nay cac Hoi rai rac khap the gioi, Moi Hoi deu co tinh cach tu+. tri., co Noi quy, giay phep hoat dong rieng, khong le thuoc vao Hoi khac, cung vay lien lac voi Tong Hoi ha`ng ngang chu khong theo he thong hang doc. Ban Chap Hanh, HDQT chi la cac co cau co tinh cach phoi hop cong tac khong phai de ra lenh hay chi huy. Vi the :

4) Co giay phep TH de sinh hoat hay khong co giay phep cung chang gay nen tro ngai gi
(1) Vi tu khi lap Tong Hoi den nay, Giay phep TH theo luat California chi de treo tren tuong hay xep vao ho so, chang Hoi nao huong loi loc gi tren Giay phep do California cap. Luat California khong phai luat co " van nang" can thiet de ap dung chung tren toan the gioi, cung khong ap dung chung tren 50 tieu bang Hoa Ky .


Do do co the noi la Noi quy 1981 la Noi quy cua Hoi Hanh Chanh o Orange County, khong phai cua Hoi San Diego, cung khong phai cua Hoi San Jose hay Hoi Sacramento, the thi lam the nao de bie^'n ra la Noi Quy cua Tong Hoi gom cac tieu bang Hoa Ky va cac quoc gia khac tren the gioi.

(2) Bay gio, gia su, HDQT bieu quyet, vi dung luat California lam giay phep gay ra nhieu tranh chap, quyet dinh bai bo Giay phep California , hay tra lai cho Hoi Orange County ( toi khong dung chu Hoi Nam CA, vi chu Nam CA co the bi hieu lam la bao gom ca San Diego, San Diego co Hoi rieng) . Bien phap do co the cham dut su tranh chap ve sau......

5) Neu lam nhu vay thi TH khong co giay phep co hoat dong duoc khong ?
Toi xin noi Yes van hoat dong nhu thuong. Mot doan the hoat dong khong co giay phep khong phai la bat hop phap, khong phai vi luat.
Vi tren thuc te giay phep cua TH lap o CA chang giup ich cho cac Hoi va lai chi mang theo tranh chap.


Mot nhom nguoi o CA doi hoi qua’ nhieu, xem minh nhu trung tam vu tru, buoc cac Hoi khac tuan phuc Hoi Orange County, tap quyen nen NOI QUY 2003, chu truong phan quyen, ton trong su tu tri cua cac Hoi tren toan the gioi , thi 1 nhom nho nguoi o Orange County CA na`y tim cach quay pha, ngay ca van de bau cu cung tim cach gay chia re, ma ly. phi bang cho rang ung cu vien ra tranh cu la do CS xui duc. ?

Truoc khi bau cu thi sum se, goi dien thoai , goi thu den tat ca cac Chu tich cac Hoi xin bo phieu. Sau khi that cu thi phi? ba'ng cac Hoi nao la` khong du nhan so, nao la bat cong, toan la nhung hanh vi thieu dao duc, thieu tac phong cua mot Doc su HC, phi bang ca Uy Ban Tc Bau cu, mac du thu tuc bau cu sang nhu mat troi va da duoc thong bao , duoc cac Hoi chap thuan truoc khi thi hanh. Hanh vi phan doi sau khi that cu la hanh vi toi te!

6) Cac Hoi dia phuong thi da co luat le rieng cua moi dia phuong (nhu 50 tieu bang Hoa Ky co luat le rieng, moi tieu bang nhu mot quoc gia) va cac quoc gia khac cung nhu vay, co luat le rieng chi phoi cac hoat dong cua cac Hoi. Ngoai ra Ban Chap Hanh TH, hay HDQT chi la co quan phoi hop, de phuc vu tap the CSVqua cac Hoi.


Hoac gia neu muon lap giay phep, thi dung mot tieu bang ma cac Hiep Hoi o Hoa thuong du`ng de lap giay phep la tieu bang Delaware, xem nhu Tieu bang trung lap, khong ai co quyen xia vo de pha hoai hay tranh chap.

7)Van de bau cu 2008 da gay ra thu oan, bao chi ngoai TH dang tai nhieu bai vu khong, that la toi te, vach ao cho nguoi xem lung, lam mat danh du cua tap the, cung chi tranh chap quyen hanh trong TH. Xem loi loc cua phe phai, ca nhan cao hon tinh dong mon. Van si Mark Twain noi rat huu ly: " laws are sand, customs are rock" chung ta ket hop vi tinh dong mon, nghia dong bao, chu khong ket hop vi luat le. Khong co luat nao bat chung ta ket hop, tai sao chung ta de cho "luat le" rang buoc hay pha roi su binh an trong tam hon cua chung ta ?

8) Vi tranh chap luat le ma sinh ra thu oan lan nhau, qua la mot dieu vo tich su " I do not believe the law of hate, but I believe in the law of love and I believe you can do nothing good with hatred" ( Clarence Darrow) .

Khi chung ta phan ho’a CS se ngoi cuoi che chung ta . Gan day co nguoi da goi den cho chung toi video cua


anh Nguyen Van Thong o Vancouver tuyen bo hoan ho co+` Trung Cong va Co Do Sao vang ,

va tin nay duoc chuyen di khap the gioi , nguoi phat bieu lai la` cua

mot cuu Doc Su Hanh Chanh.

Do la mot van de can tim hieu ro rang va luu y de tranh su tai dien co hai den uy tin chung cua tap the HC hon la ngoi nguyen rua nhung nguoi hy sinh thi gio, cong suc cho tap the trong Ban Chap hanh hay quy anh thanh vien cua HDQT, dai dien cho CSVcac Hoi tren toan the gioi, ma mot so nguoi vo luong tam da tim cach phi bang.

Tom lai khong co van de bat hop phap hay vi luat trong Noi quy 2003,


ma van de la Noi Quy 2003 va Noi Quy 1981, Noi quy nao huu ich va thich hop cho quyen loi cua tap the CSV tren toan the gioi. Quy anh chi co the thay ro la NQ 1981 co loi cho Hoi HC o Orange County, CA va NQ 2003 nham phuc vu toan the cuu sinh vien tren toan the gioi.
Trong thu sau toi se noi ro loi nhu the nao .

Luat le ve to chuc co tinh cach co gian, chu khong cung ran nhu Hinh luat. Tuy cu`ng mot bo luat, moi Hoi , tuy nhu cau, phuong tien co the to chuc theo nhu cau cua minh. Vi the cu~ng ap dung mot loai luat Bat Vu Loi. nhung cac Hoi Bat Vu loi deu co to chuc khac nhau, dieu hanh khac nhau, muc dich khac nhau, Phuong tien khac nhau, hoi ien khac nhau…. Vi the khong co Noi quy nao giong Noi quy nao. Hon nua luat le ve to chuc hiep hoi ( Corporation/ Association) vi vay co tinh ca'ch hu+o+'ng da^~n hon la bat buoc.

Khong co giay phep, hoi cung hoat dong duoc, khong phai vi the ma noi rang hoi do bat hop le, hay hoat dong vi luat.

Hoat dong vi luat la hoat dong pham phap co the bi bat, bi dua ra tao, bi tu toi hay bi boi thuong. Khong ai dua ra toa vi hoi hoat dong khong co Noi quy, mien la ho^.i do hoat dong khong mang lai thiet hai cho ca nhan, xa hoi, hay trat tu cong cong, hoac nham muc dich gay cac toi ac khac .

Tom lai " It is far better to have less learning and more morals.... than it is to have great learning and no morals" ( USVP Thomas Marshall).


Noi khac di co kien thuc ma vo luong tam chi lam bai hoai tam hon

" Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'a^me".

Kinh chao quy anh, chi
Tran Xuan Thoi

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